I like pigs, but not to eat.

My swine flu cartoon (H1N1 cartoon), up on the first page of Slate today, has gotten some attention from Google, new followers on Twitter, and my first hate mail. See, now this is being a REAL editorial cartoonist.

Well, the cartoon is about swine flu and Mexico, really, and I concentrated on Mexico, because swine flu in the US looks to be about the size of a head cold. It seems to kill only in Mexico – so far. But I’m not a physician, and am not very interested in disease. However, I couldn’t help but notice in the LA Times a few years ago, how the only incidences of tuberculosis in LA County were from Latino immigrants. The Times is a very liberal paper; it must have just killed them to admit this fact.

Slate cartoon on swine flu and MexicoWell, anyway, I have to report on the news, not wild hypotheses like 8 kids in NYC had a sniffle. And Mexico has been in the news lately for other sad things, has it not? Think of me as the sundial for cloudy days.

Thanks to Mashable (on Twitter!) I found this article in CNN on
Swine flu creates controversy on Twitter:

Some observers say Twitter — a micro-blogging site where users post 140-character messages — has become a hotbed of unnecessary hype and misinformation about the outbreak, which is thought to have claimed more than 100 lives in Mexico.

For example, some Twitter users told their followers to stop eating pork, he said. Health officials have not advised that precaution.

Etc.

That will be nice, won’t it, when the USDC has some actual facts. Besides calling it H1N1 flu, to try to make it look like they’re working on it.

Okay, let’s go to my mailbag -or hate mail, in this case – OOPS, just got another one. Blanca writes

…..and old problem for Mexico, ignorant americans like you

And Mr. del Rio writes:

Donna, you recent cartoon paints Mexico with a series of “sins” that frankly could apply to practically any other country in the world. Particularly accusing Mexico of “guns” when it is a well known fact that over 90% of all the guns in Mexico come from the US; not to mention that a 40 Billion Dollar drug consumption market is fueling the Mexico cartels. Your depiction of Mexico as bad neighbor is both offensive and ignorant. It must liberating to be able to express so freely and so un-funningly (I thought cartoons were supposed to have at least some element of humor?) your own prejudices on the face of a healthcare crisis that could have emerged from anywhere.

Shame on you!

Oh, and a third:

What do u know about mexico Lady!! U are the bad neighbor!! wee dont need ya at all!!!

(I didn’t have room to add Poor Education in the cartoon.)

None said whether they have a trip planned there soon, or whether they would have written if I had made the map of Canada, instead. Swine flu is not Mexico’s biggest problem – notice that I put it last. And obviously, no one BLAMES a country or a person, for that matter, for getting a disease. But the US has been issuing warnings not to drink the water in Mexico for decades. Maybe, just maybe, their health department, run by the corrupt government there, are not the best.

The Drawing I don’t know if anyone remembers the State Farm jingle that goes, “Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.” Apparently not. Maybe I was trying to be too clever, turning it around like this for the caption.

And this will only be interesting to a small slice of readers, but while I was drawing this I was suddenly remembering an embroidered framed linen that I think my grandmother made in crewel embroidery of Cape Cod, which is somewhat similar in shape. It was done on taupe linen, and I think the wool was only in red and black – so simple and handsome. I think it even had a whale like this! And it had a very fancy compass pointing north that I can’t remember, and didn’t have time to research when I drew this. Yay for embroidered linens.

You can also leave comments anonymously on GoComics for this. Please note that this cartoon was picked as BEST CARTOON OF THE DAY for Slate by the editor – that’s why everyone saw it. So….guess Slate is the r- word, too, eh?

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108 amusing responses: to “I like pigs, but not to eat.”

  1. Dredpiraterobts says:

    Thank God I made it to the end. I was afraid it would never end.

    1. “Racist”… It’s an epithet that people toss around with righteous indignation. It is also a “mud” that tends to stick in that no one can prove that they are not racist, because everyone IS racist. Racism is a part of egoism, and absolutely every person is an egoist.

    2. “Hate”… As an adjective, is a first cousin to “Racist”

    The problem with both words is that they have lost their true meaning. If one is truely a “Racist” then race has become the dominant issue in their decision making. They chose to DO things based on the race of the person they are dealing with (and always remember that actions speak louder than words).

    Likewise “Hate” has become less severe than “Dis” (disrespecting) “Don’t be hating on me!” “Don’t be a hater.” It’s sickens one to see where hate has fallen. Hate is real! Hate is despicable. Hatred is what is is nurtured in people convinced to kill (soldiers for example). When Fred Phelps says “God Hates Fags” he means the real stuff (he’s a lunatic, but he is semantically correct) when one uses the word “Hate” they should keep in mind groups like Aryan Nation, and the Westboro Baptist Church (I could link but I won’t). That’s what unrepentant hate looks like.

    Just to be clear, I use the military as an example because it is an organization that is charged with the responsibility of turning otherwise peacable persons into people who will kill when asked to. One major step in this process is to convince the soldier that the killing is justified by virtue of the fact that the target is hate-able.

    I remember when I saw this cartoon; my reaction was “Lame.” By the time it hit the Gocomics site there had been dozens of cute little piggies from all over the world in cartoons. There were even a few cartoons that had Mexico “invading” with their “Swine Flu” but they were few and from the less civilized nations.

    I thought then as I think now that Donna’s effort was of a decidedly California perspective. Having lived for a while in La Jolla, I am somewhat versed in the DLIMBYBCCMP mind set (Don’t live in my backyard, but come clean my pool) of Ca. Donna shows her dismissal of the whole “Mexicans issue” with this drawing.

    But, truth be told, “Immigration” is nothing more than the modern day “Abortion” issue. It’s only an issue for politicians because they can use it to boil your vote down to one “self evident” issue (as opposed to you struggling to find a candidate that will agree with you on a whole host of issues. Donna will see how this works as she reflects on Bush’s stand on wolves). Abortion was the issue that collected the casually and moderately religious along with the fanatically and the financially motivated religious into a huge coalition, which has since started to deteriorate as the scales have dropped from many eyes.

    So swine flu came from Mexico, all the other flues come from Hong Kong and the rest of bird loving Asia. Yeah, it’s their fault; they live with ducks walking around the house! But that’s just the way it is, Guns, Germs and Steel baby! (BTW that book is really pretty bad; hopefully someone will come along and do a better job of that theory).

    It’s not that Donna Barstow is anymore racist than the rest of us. It’s that this cartoon is unflinchingly mean spirited. As such it seems that one of two things is happening. 1. that DB is trying to get street cred with so called “Right Wing” or 2. That DB is just too clueless to know that they cut off Marie Antoinette’s head for stuff like this.

    Personally, I think that it’s the first one. But I don’t know why someone who wants to sell non political cartoons to The New Yorker (you don’t get much more “liberal elite” than the privileged class that identifies with that magazine) would go out of her way to court the Anti New Yorker crowd. The only thing I can figure is that it’s #2, clueless!

    • Donna Barstow says:

      I had the first swine flu up on Gocomics. It had just hit the news that weekend, and I was up on Monday. And notice I avoided the pig cliche.

      I notice you didn’t deny any of the facts I listed that make Mexico a bad neighbor. They’ve been there for years. I hope they will clean it up someday.

  2. Dredpiraterobts says:

    Yes I noted that you had avoided the pig “cliché” (which how cliché could it have been if you were among the first to comment as you assert?).

    No I’m not about to “defend” Mexico against your “facts.” I figured the post was droning on long enough and I was attempting to tread the middle ground. Further I think I went fairly far to disprove a racist motivation to the cartoon so why would I then go ahead and dispute the points you made.

    It seemed to me that the discussion had devolved into a discussion of your particular personal and professional reputation.

    As to Mexico: Mexico is the USA without the New Deal, without Unions and without a regulated market.

    Your last name is Barstow, as in Barstow, Ca. as in the town that the Joads wound up in in the Grapes Of Wrath. I don’t know if your family founded Barstow or not, and I’m not blaming what happened to the Oakies in the ’30s on you or your family. But what I am doing is trying to point out to you that what happened here is still happening there (not to mention here before Caesar Chavez organized migrant labor in Ca.. I don’t know if you remember this but it used to be a semi common news story that some farmer in Ca was charged after mass graves were found on his property.) If ever there is a “There, but for the grace of God, go I.” place, it’s Mexico. One might be entitled to snark by paraphrasing Gertrude Stein by that “it’s the only ‘There’ there over there in California.”

    Now perhaps you come from a long history of California wealth (not your fault if you did) but if not then you can be sure that your life would not resemble the one you are living one bit.

    Mexico is what the US would become if we let the “Free Marketeers” have their way. Mexico is approximately an Ayn Rand Utopia, and what we know from this is that “Libertarianism” is a failed philosophy. This is why “Liberals” are opposed to the self proclaimed “Conservatives” whose idea of “conservatism” is to undo the New Deal.

    I hope that you can see from this that there is a lot more that goes into political commentary than just calling names. Or there ought to be anyway.

  3. Dredpiraterobts says:

    By way of clarification…

    “…discussion of your particular personal and professional reputation.” As such I was more interested in commenting on the semantics of the fray.

    “…trying to point out to you that what happened here [In Steinbeck's Barstow] is still happening there [in today's Mexico] (not to mention here [In California] before Caesar Chavez… ”

    “… your life would not resemble the one you are living one bit.” If not for the reforms of the early 20th century (including the New Deal) and the regulation of markets (keep in mind that child labor laws were instituted in THIS country in 1938 and that was only because it reduced the supply of workers so that adult workers could demand and get a better price for their labor). We’ve come a long way from the basket (as in basket case economy) in a relatively short time.

    “… self proclaimed “Conservatives” whose idea of “conservatism” is to undo the New Deal.” And the regulated economy that has created the world’s most stable (up till recently) middle class.

    One unrelated, related point… For yourself I would suggest that you watch the movie Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0261392 ) if only the first ten minutes and the last ten.

    The crux of the story is that J&SB read what people are saying about “them” on the internet and they eventually start finding those people and beating them up (the movie is pretty foul so I’d hesitate advising you to watch the whole thing.)

  4. Donna Barstow says:

    To me, a pig was the obvious symbol. I try not to be obvious, with the result that sometimes I’m too subtle. I knew other cartoonists would do pigs, however…

    No Barstows left in Barstow, and I’m not from Calif. You’re doing a lot of guessing about policies and the “woulds” and “mights.” Libertarians might take offense at your comparing the result of Mexico to their tenets. Or are you saying they wouldn’t? That any political party or philosophy would be pleased to be associated with that mess?

    A good cartoon has a point of view, which is hopefully innovative, and admirably funny. I don’t always succeed on all points, but I have fun trying. Much as I’d like to proselytize, there’s no room in one cartoon. A body of work might work. That’s the ticket, these will be my next book!

    As far as going after people on the internet, I surely have good reason. The main person doing this is an “editorial cartoonist” himself, and this is defamation in order to hurt my business. We’ll see how that shakes down.

  5. Dredpiraterobts says:

    I don’t think that the Libertarians would like to be associated with the Mexican situation, but that’s their tough luck.

    Mexico stands as stark example of what the reality of “Free Markets” would spiral down to. Even the father of the concept of “Free Markets” Adam Smith admits in his tome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wealth_of_Nations that they are an oxymoron that cannot exist because if the people have no recourse then they cannot challenge the power structure (which is supposed to be the agent of change). Their only recourse is the judicial system, which means there need to be laws (regulations), which means the market isn’t free. In Mexico, a ruling class has run the country for its own benefit since the get go. The only regulations are the ones put in place to benefit those already in power.

    The same thing almost happened here! If it weren’t for TR and the Trust Busters, the inheritance tax (which is designed to be a confiscatory tax that prevents an aristocracy from rising in this nation, and is backed today by some of the world’s most wealthy individuals) Child Labor laws and the New Deal, Glass Steagle (which Clinton, Rubin and Weill shattered) FDIC, FNMA, the SEC (an agency designed by one of the most notorious Wall Street inside trader (when it was legal) and short sellers; Joe Kennedy) and a whole host of regulations… one of two things would have happened. We would have become a Fascist state like Italy, or a Communist state like Russia. In either case the US would have been a basket case and Hitler would have won the war (which also almost happened exactly BECAUSE Mexico was a basket case and open to overtures from Hitler).

    Libertarians like to say that they are against all of those sorts of regulation but that they are sure that when the time comes, they’ll be able to provide a good military defense.

    Winston Churchill said, “If you’re not a Liberal when you’re young, you have no heart. If you’re not a Conservative when you’re old, you have no brains.”

    By Liberal, he means “Self determinant” the belief that there is no need for authority. By Conservative he’s referring to the need for a centralized government (In WC’s time the world was still reeling and dealing with the choice between royalty and democracy and WC’s opinion was that there needed to be a strong central figure of absolute truth, a king”ish”. Churchill was a Conservative and a royalist. Keep in mind that the Tsar, who was a “Divine Right” leader, had just been brutally deposed.) Today’s Conservative is just slightly right of the leftest (as opposed to leftist) fringe; Libertarians (who actually see themselves as the purest “Conservative Purists”). Today’s “Liberal” is far to the right of the “Libertarian” (and as such right of the “Conservatives”). It would have made Churchill’s head spin but the assessment remains the same in that the ideology that endorses a strong central government is the ideology that Churchill described those not of the ideology as having, “no brains.” The ideology endorsing regulation is the Liberal ideology.

    As to “guessing” “would” and “might;” the “Would” of if you weren’t born rich then your life would be entirely different if it weren’t for the regulations placed on our economy in the early part of the 20th Century (including New Deal). Isn’t as much a guess as it is a conclusion. Given the explication above it is an obvious conclusion that life would be different for all of us. Even if it weren’t for the Great Depression and WWII, the cycle of boom and bust would have continued to depress our standard of living, and there would be no reason for the rest of the world to have invested their money in the US.

    As to your Californian status… Well I admit that it seems that you are currently located in Ca, what with the Griffith Park stuff and all ” I’m a volunteer member of a Greater Griffith Park Council, the Parks, Rivers and Open Space Committee (PROS).” I mean I guess one “Might” do that from a distance but I don’t know why one “would”. At some point I had read your blog that said you had a nice weekend in Northern (er) Ca only to have come home to the fight over the cartoon of Obama as a car salesman(?).

    Anyway, I don’t know, don’t care how long you’ve lived in Ca or if you live there now. Except that you see that my guesses are based on more than just blue sky. My “Guesses” about “Would” and “Might” are actually conclusions that are drawn from the available evidence not from “fact” made up.

    Meanwhile you “From The Right”ers will, (I guess) go right on with your “facts” like F.D.R. actually extended the Depression. And those of us who believe that facts must be based on valid evidence (which includes all of the evidence and not just the data cherry picked to beg the question) will continue to see you as the rhetorical sophists that you seem to be so proud to be.

  6. Gymnast says:

    YOUR HATING ON MEXICANS. HUH??
    WE WORK HARDER THAN YOU.
    I AM PROUD OF BEING A MEXICAN
    YOU DUM HATER
    GO MEXICANS!!!!!:]

  7. Donna Barstow says:

    It’s hard to know where to begin, Gymnast…but it sounds like you agree with me that Mexico has many many problems.

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